and the error code i get is "overcurrent" or "no comm" Does any one have any ideas. i also replace every connections with the 2 wires running to all the decoders. EZ-DT: Decoder Programming You Hi tlawn86 - I work for Hunter and don't jump in here often, so I hope this is okay. 1:15:16 Types of Problems. I am troubleshooting a Hunter ACC 2 wire decoder system and could use some advice. All rights reserved. %PDF-1.5 I looked up curves when it seemed like I would have to upsize a fuse in a solid state controller in order to accommodate two valves on a zone, in a controller only rated for one. Repeat firmware update steps and allow to complete. Check flow sensor wiring. The display may show Press the Mode (center) button on the DUAL48M control panel. The decoder may be damaged. Why don't you just buy your controllers from dealers instead of off the back of a truck in the middle of the night. Manually activate the desired station to energize the two-wire path. http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/ACC_Flash_Update_Instructions.pdf, http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/DG_DecoderDesignGuide_dom.pdf, http://www.turf-digital.com/Jul2011/South#&pageSet=12&page=0. Basically the system doesn't work intermittently, where the control box indicated that it is watering normally but it in fact is not. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Reduce timer or turn off backlight display. Of course, the primary design concern for controllers is probably going to be to have triacs that can handle the entire output of the supply transformer up to its internal fuse opening point. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I previously distributed Hunter here in Aus and they are a brilliant company. Rod your a big help.. when i called hunter support last thursday the rep i talked to was just reading a book and didnt know a clue what i was talking about almost. I think it isn't posted online because it needs updating. Check two-wire path and controller power. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The AC current will drop sharply between two points on the wire path, if the short circuit or fault to earth is between them. Ditto on the classy rep. Those are posts well worth saving. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Example of using glass fuse holders on ADM. Any luck using self-resetting polyfuses instead of conventional glass fuses? So here's the recap guys: Success! 2. ACC-99D uses two-wire decoders to control up to 99 stations without giving up the arsenal of features provided by the ACC. All Hunter ICD decoders have a single copper grounding wire. That is the "wire" that would be connected to earth ground. If the decoder (s) look damaged from surge, disconnect them from the 2-wire path and check the amperage at the controller. This is done by going to "Advanced Features", "Decoder Functions", "Check ADM Current". WebTroubleshoot wire breaks, nicks, damage, and shorts Solve issues with wires, valves and locating decoders Assists with set-up and product recommendations Supports all 2-wire WebMove the pointer with the arrow buttons at the Main Menu screen to Program Decoder and press Next . The ICD-HP will check for a decoder. The Diagnostics screen displays an overview of the electrical status of each installed output module, plus additional functions. If you are going to maintain 2-wire systems, you want to have a clamp-around "leakage meter" that can read the milliamp currents drawn by the decoders. I remember reading the phrase "electronic circuit breaker" in product descriptions when the glass fuses and mechanical circuit breakers were no longer included with sprinkler controllers. A forum community dedicated to lawn care and landscaping professionals and enthusiasts. Hi guys. Read the resistance of the wire pair that connects the two decoders together. The readings should be between 0-60 depending on distance between decoders (see decoder wire resistance chart). If connection/wiring breaks are not visible, then use a cable tracer to track the wire issue. The Decoder Design Guide isn't super great for troubleshooting but it does help clarify things graphically: reps and sponsors could learn a lot from your posts, once a product has been introduced quit selling and help when help is needed. http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/ACC_Flash_Update_Instructions.pdf, http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/acc_v5.11.020_xp.zip, http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/DG_DecoderDesignGuide_dom.pdf. I should have mentioned my own research about polyswitches was not about their being primary protection in this application, but for use in another aspect of valve operation by remote controllers. If it is there for a long period of time, the ICD-HP is retrying due to communication failures. My Armada clamp meter shows 1.5ma on my ICD100 decoders. ill ask for you next time you really know your stuff.. In a diagnostics situation be aware their will be measurable current where their will none in a traditionally open circuit. dEZ$eo4#tWY)[ 1BqH M9 7HB37(.eFyTg%!Rppe8M'CJ_*uN%! WebMake sure both slide locks are closed. School of hard knocks. When stations are running (Active), the total current is updated to show the power used by the solenoids. Check with your local sales rep and request a class. To read decoder information: Two beeps will sound, and decoder information will be displayed. Check controller power to two-wire path, or connect power leads to decoder. 5[@l$w ZIeQ|"+m}Z Program dummy station numbers into decoder. If successful, it will display the Dec Check with your local sales rep and request a class. If the LED on the decoder is not blinking green, ensure the station is active, checkthe two-wire path and wire connections, and repeatsteps 1 & 2. That Jim Guy said: Rather than seeing 10.5-12.0 ma you should be getting about 4.5 at the 3rd decoder. Greenhouse, Nursery, and Open-Field Irrigation. I thought I was the only nerd regarding 2 wire. Awesome sps2868. endobj Konapride - U da Man! Copyright 2023 Hunter Industries. I have only gotten the problem to show itself for me once, that was today after installing the new module. Woo-Hoo! Current is very helpful in troubleshooting field wiring conditions. If the voltage did not change, verify that Make sure you have a clampmeter and notebook in your hands, I can't tell you how portant they both are. Check flow sensor setup. Wont read flow. Overflow messages. HCC Manual Operation. To view this page in a different language, please select from the list below. One of my location have a hunter acc 2 wire. Check battery display or retry with USB power if available. :clapping: Hey Pops, you ever hear of speaker phone or earbuds? here what ive done first i went threw with my wire locater to check for broken wires and located all the valves. i also replace every connections with the 2 wires running to all the decoders. It's easy enough to spec triacs in a controller that will operate on the safe side of a glass fuse curve. WebOpen the controller inner door to see additional diagnostic information on the DUAL48M display. Sorry tlawn86 - The 2-day decoder class is currently held in San Marcos, CA. Copyright 2023 Hunter Industries. w?Lhq ?N~5kd>wkSrzPq$`p_PD8q The curves I read showed there was a little bit of wiggle room (very little). Rod says that Hunter ICD decoders should draw 3.5 to 4ma. Disconnect the 2-wire path (s) from the controller. This is a common diagnostic technique to find shorts to earth ground. WebAttempt to turn on the decoder from the controller (Manual Single Station or ICR remote). The * is letting the user know that the ICD-HP is in process of communicating with the decoder. HunterTekGeek 1. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Check battery display or 1:27:03 Some of us employ self-healing transformer technology which may use a poly-switch or other resettable device. <> Start station with MV from controller or remote. Press the Station Finder soft key, and select the station number to locate. A failed decoder may read 500-600 mA over that decoders lead wires. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! STEP 1: Verify Station Fault Remove the field wire for the faulted station. Web1:00:00 EZ Decoder Diagnostics. Dual/Pilot decoder not recognized by hand held. A failed decoder may read 500-600 mA over that decoders lead wires. If there is no problem with the decoder lead wires, then split the connections for the 2-wire path. Trace and mark the 2-wire path using a 501 or 521 if necessary. Connect the Pulser to the 2-wire path that is isolated from the controller. 1 0 obj EZ-DT is Hunters new Easy Decoder Diagnostic Tool that makes troubleshooting the EZ-DS system even easier. Thank you. JavaScript is disabled. It helps us both when you are in front of the controller when we speak. Hi tlawn86 - I work for Hunter and don't jump in here often, so I hope this is okay. Each modules electrical current is shown. Or are we taking those with the same grains of salt we employ when looking at sprinkler head performance charts? Y1-XBL)~\d1on4a*NkHIcOB\pMEw4pl>=U`S&bSh 9umf,[$ctNKXle5I<5~8[y!ofCO]myN 'T,]>V 7T% For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Know most of the Hunter guys in San Marcos. Greenhouse, Nursery, and Open-Field Irrigation. Poly switches allow current leakage and their ability to remain active is limited. Most manufacturers use a diagnostic circuit breaker on the triac/output side of things. Sprinkus, nice job on providing the Decoder Troubleshooting Guide. XhArBLfR6+$!$/}^T%]'N$xRP:D,d_c GuC`5PC.7|/$C. nothing works. WebWith the clamp meter check the lead wire of the decoder to make sure the cause is not a failed decoder. When the Start button is pressed, the controller will chatter the solenoid for up to 30 minutes. First, I invite you to call Tech Service at 800-733-2823 to help get this resolved. I feel like I am beating this to death. Sorry. How to use a clamp-meter to troubleshoot: 1. if more reps reacted to product concerns the way you do Rod i believe they would received much better on this or any forum. also there When the Start button is pressed, the controller will chatter the solenoid for up to 30 minutes. To stop the chatter, press the soft key again, or it will stop by itself after 30 minutes. When 12 comes on there shouldn't be any measurable current on the same wire on the 11 valve. I scheduled with the homeowner for Friday morning, so I will be calling at 8am Hawaii time this friday. Rod says that Hunter ICD decoders should draw 3.5 to 4ma. I like barry he uses a white board which I like and dry erase markers which I love, ill post a link if i can find it. I hate to disappoint 1idejim, but no Speedos were used or harmed during this operation. Display backlight will reduce battery life. 1:24:23 The Half Method. ICD-HP will not communicate with decoder. stream O.k, you're holding the phone in one hand and the notebook in the other..how do you write? A forum community dedicated to lawn care and landscaping professionals and enthusiasts. Start the controller manually. here what ive done first i went threw with my wire locater to check for broken wires and located all the valves. 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