Adnan and Stephanie were also very close witch could be another reason as to why Jay is. The internet is thick with lists of Jay's lies (here's one, for instance). He was then asked to wait while Adnan drove Hae's car, which was parked in a nearby neighborhood, to the burial site. Two incoming calls (we can't be sure who they were from) originated from the park at 7:09 p.m. and 7:16 p.m., suggesting whoever had Adnan's cell phone was, in fact, there around that time. I dont want to talk about this for entertainment purposes,Wilds toldThe Intercept. I didnt think he was going to go kill her. Jay Wilds is a former classmate of Adnan Syed from Baltimore, Maryland. The star witness at Syeds trial was Jay Wilds, a former classmate who testified that he helpedSyed dispose of Lees body. Adnan took his own car, and Jay got home another way. #FreeAdnan. By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. "I only smoked with him two or three times. This fact cannot be disputed. Went canoeing. And it's hard to imagine, right now, how anyone could be free of doubt about Jay's testimony. Will we start over?' Your motion for mistrial is granted" - Judge Quarles Trial 2 January 21 to February 25 2000 Defendant: Adnan Syed Koenig, the host of Serial, has not yet commented on Wilds interview. Wilds originally told police that he saw Lees body in the parking lot of a Best Buy near the high school. Photo: Natasha Vargas-Cooper for The Intercept, Natasha Vargas-Cooper[emailprotected]theintercept.org@natashavc. Because I knew football had paid for all of that, but there were few football players down there. Again, here's Jay: I wasnt openly willing to cooperate with the police. He spoke with The Intercept's Natasha Vargas-Cooper about his version of events on the day Baltimore-area teenager Hae Min Lee was killed in 1999. But that, according to what I learned later, is probably not what happened. Wilds also shares a follow-up email. That's why we keep our work free. The first season of Serial ended this month, but the story is far from finished. The police came to Jay; he didnt go looking for them. They had to chase me around before they could corner me to talk to me, and there came a point where I was just sick of talking to them. 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Of course, Chaudry isn't a disinterested observer a fact she freely admits. Jay said:I feel like [Koenig] created an evil archetype of me and sensationalized my motives. After all, Jay did know where Hae's car was, and while Adnan didn't have much reason to kill Hae, Jay had even less reason to kill her. Jay all but admitted to @BobRuffTruth that he got the reward. All Rights Reserved. Now I dont wanna tell the people at Cathys that this guy Im with just killed his girlfriend and the cops just called because then they would all be a part of this fucked up thing. There are also a few incoming calls at this point, but unfortunately, the records don't show us who they came from. He says he was unfairly portrayed in the podcast, which revisited in-depth the investigation and trial of Syed a key part of which was centered on Wilds testimony. Jay Wilds' New Interview About 'Serial' Is So Completely Frustrating. #TheJayInterview #ThankYouIntercept #FreeAdnan #PerjuryFTW, So yeah, i'm not sleeping tonight. They often smoked weed together and quite a lot on the day Hae went missing. He did not go to prison, though. We drive over toCathys house to smoke. Normal high school Im mad at her and Ill scratch her car sort of stuff. Is Night Court a real thing? I wasnt fully cooperating, so if they said, Well, we have on phone records that you talked to Jenn. Id say, Nope, I didnt talk to Jenn. Until Jenn told me that she talked with the cops and that it was ok if I did too. (Although he could have used a different phone.). And they wouldnt stop interviewing me or questioning me, he said of the police, in part one of the interview. And it was really hard for him to deal with being on the losing end. Hae was dead before she got to my house. Support our mission and help keep Vox free for all by making a financial contribution to Vox today. And the other thing about it, I mean, there looked like there was real hurt and pain. The final part will publish Wednesday. Motion denied p6 He might really have just been bullshitting at the time. The details of his story changed on each telling. "I guess I was being kind of a jury on whether or not people needed to be involved or whatever, but these people didn't have anything to do with it, and I knew they didn't have anything to do with it," he said. He had to give hair and blood samples. Jay says: He didn't help bury the body. Jay sounds like he's in some middle school play where everyone is horrible at acting and just robotically mouthing the words they're supposed to say. Or take the murder itself. And Wilds was also a professed accomplice to Syeds crime, which further complicated his role as the prosecutions sole witness. Jay says: Adnan probably wasn't with Hae's car at Best Buy. He argues that the only people with a right to demand he come forward and tell his story would be Lee's family. I think that was Jay Wilds first real girlfriend, and I think that's why Jay Wilds reaction was so strong. When Woodlawn put in the magnet thing, they took out all the vocational classes. And the burden of proof for a crime like this is extraordinarily high: beyond a reasonable doubt. One person who missed college because of Jay was Adnan Syed. Joining is simple and doesnt need to cost a lot: You can become a sustaining member for as little as $3 or $5 a month. When we were digging the hole, its not like Haes body was just lying next to us. This fact eliminates all random killer (s) (Roy Davis or Mr. S or Space Aliens). Some of what Wilds claims in the new interview also contradicts what he told police a point he addressed. A detective testifies Jay told him he first saw Hae's body on Franklintown Road. At this point, Jay apparently drove himself and Adnan over to Cathy's to smoke. But Brown wantd to sell soon & Jay couldn't get paid till Nov. What did you know about Adnan and his relationship with Hae Min Lee? Jay Wilds was a crucial player in Adnans conviction he testified that Adnan confessed to him about killing Lee, saw Lees body in the trunk of her car, and helped bury her body in Leakin Park. Even to Serial, the podcast that detailed nearly every part of Syed's case, Wild remained off the record to provide background information, according to Rolling Stone. When I ask her for her theories of what could have happened that day, she says she doesn't know, but she offers three possibilities Adnan murdering Hae doesn't even make the list. I had a lot more on the line than just a few bags of weed. Then there is of the glaring lie that the state's witness Jay told the police everything they needed to know the 1st time they met. She was still in the trunk. Her body was discovered in a city forest three weeks later. I didnt know it was that close. Philip Buddemeyer Baltimore City surveyor p93 He declined to be formally interviewed for her broadcast., which is a spinoff of the radio program This American Life.. For his testimony, Wilds was given probation instead of a jail sentence for his said involvement in the crime. That would free Wilds to then collect the reward moneyafter detectives officially filed Syeds indictment to CrimeStoppers on October 1stin November. Number of episodes: 25+ (ongoing). By signing up, I agree to receive emails from The Intercept and to the Privacy Policy and Terms of Use. Following a rare 2014 interview with Natasha Vargas-Cooper ofThe Intercept, the outlet reported that Jay lived with his wife and children in a two-story suburban home., Wilds accused Sarah Koenig of trying to strong-arm him into giving an interview onSerial. Jay said: I was also running [drug] operations from my grandmothers house. What happened next? Consider what the world of media would look like without The Intercept. I didnt tell the cops it was in front of my house because I didnt want to involve my grandmother. Get started for FREE Continue. And, lastly, she points out that an important car from the trial is now missing in his account of the day. We know: At trial, the "trunk pop" moment allegedly happened at Best Buy. COMING NEXT: PART 2, Jays theory on the anonymous caller, why he agreed to testify in the states case against Adnan, and how Serial showed up at his front door. No until they told me they werent trying to prosecute me for selling weed, or trying to get any of my friends in trouble. He had chosen a jury trial. Jay Wilds Some think Wilds could have killed Lee himself. Jay says: He and Adnan hung out at Cathy's. And then I would only give them information pertaining to my interaction with someone or where I was. The motion to set aside Adnans conviction stated prosecutors no longer trusted Jay Wildss wildly inconsistent testimony. than she was letting on. In a piece for The Guardian newspaper, she argued there may be enough evidence for the state to pursue a perjury charge. On Jan. 13, 1999, Hae Min Lee, an 18-year-old highschool student from Baltimore, went missing. Attorney for the Defendant: Maria Cristina Gutierrez. Its just on the street. This is a moot point now, as Syed was granted a new trial in 2018. Between 3 p.m. and 4 p.m., there are outgoing calls made to Jay's friend Jenn, Adnan's friend Nisha, and two other friends (Phil and Patrick). Wilds looms large in Sarah Koenig and Julie Snyders reporting about the trial. I think there was another dude or something, or whatever. From your perspective, what was Adnans reputation at Woodlawn? appreciated. Jay says: He went to the mall alone. Apparently, Wilds had been inquiring about the sale price of a teachers motorcycle, which Kelly Blue Book puts at $3,000. What happened before that, I dont know.. He had this very detailed story of pulling into Best Buy; Adnan is wearing these red gloves. And hes like, Ive gotta put her car somewhere. So I follow him around for a few minutes, and he just picks a place at random behind some row houses, leaves her car, gets into his car, takes me home. Getting them in trouble for anything that they knew or that I had told them I couldnt have that. And they wouldnt stop interviewing me or questioning me. Youre in this on your own. But they don't need to. No. Google Pay. In September, a legal team formed to represent Wilds and also quickly worked out a plea deal to testify against Syed. Rabia Chaudry, the Syed family friend and attorney who originally brought Syed's case to the attention of Serial host Sarah Koenig, today took to Twitter to point out what she sees as inconsistencies in the story Wilds is now telling compared to the account of events he offered at Syed's trial. Based on Syeds indictment date, the CrimeStoppers reward should have been paid in June, but it was not paid until November. Jay suggested going to the mall to find a present for Stephanie, but Adnan said he had to "go do something," and told Jay to drop him at school, letting Jay borrow his car and phone. While Jay had claimed to first lay eyes on Hae's body in a few different spots in the weeks and months after Hae's disappearance, he testified that the real "trunk pop" moment happened there in the Best Buy parking lot. None of his friends thought he reacted particularly badly to the break-up. Jay Wilds, testimony resumes p122, Discussion: Mr Ss indecent exposure conviction p2 Many questions remain about Wilds true role in the case, but theres no shortage of theories. He was having a hard enough time with that itself. When did he first talk to you about hurting her? "This completely destroys the state's case. It takes him about half an hour, 45 minutes, and he comes back with gloves on, panting, like, She was really heavy. Thats all he says. We were in the car, we were riding, smoking. We've finally heard from Jay Wilds, the key witness in the murder of Hae Min Lee. I stonewalled them that way. Who would hold party elites accountable to the values they proclaim to have? Baltimore police were already focusing their investigation on Syed after an anonymous tip told them to look at Lees ex. I dont know whether he calls me when hes on his way back to my house, or if he calls me right outside the house. Jay was undoubtedly prepped before the interview. It helped fan the flames of this story that. Jay said: "I was also running [drug] operations from my grandmother's house. He had a professional job in high school, he was aparamedic or something [Ed. I had friends but the groups were small. I was also around a bunch of people earlier that day [at Cathy's], and I didn't want them to get fucked up with homicide." Jay painted his lying as an act of altruism. as much as $250,000 to cover the cost of a possible appeal. In another he says it was at Patapsco State Park. When she mentioned it to Wilds, "he quickly brushed it off: No ' [I was an] an accessory,' 'no, I did this, nothing," Horton says. How many covert wars, miscarriages of justice, and dystopian technologies would remain hidden if our reporters werent on the beat? Ok, so you arrive at Cathys with Adnan after he tells you he murdered Hae? But that testimony shifting and shot through with holes as it is is all the prosecution had. I dont think it meant that much to her. In one interview Jay tells police Hae was killed at the Best Buy. We were in the car together during last periodhe was ditching the last period. There is a specific point where I became involved in this. Jay Wilds, Maryland's key (and only) witness at Adnan Syed's 2000 trial for murdering Hae Min Lee which was chronicled on the hotly debated Serial podcast, which launched in October 2014 and completed its 12-episode run earlier this month has consented to a single interview (with The Intercept) in an attempt to tell his side of the story. Wieselman writes about and reports on the television industry. A big part of the Serial podcast is to speculate on Adnans motive. 12 lowendtheory24 6 mo. Getting them in trouble for anything that they knew or that I had told them I couldnt have that.. Though Wilds testimony seemed to have been trusted implicitly by Syeds jury, the Serial podcast shining a light on the key details of Wilds claims led many listeners to believe Wilds was not exactly truthful and that even the slightest bit of questioning could have unraveled his story. Evidence from the Adnan Syed case | Previously undisclosed.wikispaces.com. Contact Jarett Wieselman at jarett.wieselman@buzzfeed.com. This page hasall the trial transcripts from both Adnans first, prematurely ended trial in 1999, or the second trial in early 2000 (this verdict was overturned in 2016). July 1, 2016. I don't know Adnan, andI don't think Jay's lies prove Adnan's innocence. PERJURY ABOUNDS! I believe I told them it was in front of Cathys [not her real name] house, but it was in front of my grandmothers house. Sergeant Kevin Forrester BPD homicide sergeant p56 I pick him up he doesnt have any car with him. Wilds then remembered driving in Adnan's car to Best Buy, where he found Adnan (who wasn't with any car). How old were you when you first met Adnan Syed? Losing track of how many times Jay's story has changed. Reporter Sarah Koenig pointed to several inconsistencies in Jay Wilds' statements to police. So that would ruin her life too. @YAmericanMuslim Analysis in a nutshell: He can't stop lying. Hae. We know: At trial, Jay and Jenn both said he went to her house that afternoon. It wasnt until they made it clear they werent interested in my procurement of pot that I began to open up any. Im pretty sure it was my fear of going to prison for having a bunch of weed in my grandmas house. Consequently, Wilds is a looming figure in Sarah Koenig and Julie Snyders reporting about the trial. ago It's possible but I think Jenn's 'evidence' is a little suspect too. I dont feel comfortable drawing conclusions like that. He said, Youve gotta help me, or Im gonna tell the cops about you and the weed and all that shit. And then he popped the trunk and I saw Haes body. Then what happens, and what time is it roughly? He also makes clear that his cooperation with the police was reluctant at best. ", Chaudry ticks off the changes. I remember the highway traffic to my right, and I remember standing there on the curb. If you want to look up something that was said during one of the trials, such as Hae Min Lees mothers heartbreaking comments at the sentencing hearing, or what Debbie W said (or couldnt remember) at trial, or even whether the prosecutions closing arguments did or did not depend on a certain timeline, then youve come to the right place. We know: At trial, Jay and Jenn both said he went to her house that afternoon. ), Defense objection to seating Juror Number 6 p2, Defense motion in limine to instruct jurors not to read any newspapers for the duration of the trial (denied) p11, Presidents Day, National Holiday. "Definitely the idea that the body was buried after midnight. The Dark Brandonmeme and why the Biden campaign has embraced it explained, Take a mental break with the newest Vox crossword, Sign up for the The part about Cathy's apartment is pretty undisputed, though -- Jay, Cathy and Adnan all acknowledge being there that evening. Wherever her car was at the time I picked him up from Best Buy, it probably stayed there until he picked me up later that evening. So the deal didn't happen #FreeAdnan. These interviews were set up by Urick, the state prosecutor, who gave an interview himself. Adnan is away for life because the state used Jay's testimony to show premeditation he said Adnan told him he was going to kill Hae before he did it. Nisha Adnans romantic interest p25 Is that why you didntinitiallycooperate with the police? "There was never a real friendship," Wilds told The Intercept. Why has your story changed over time? Its starting to get dark, so between 3p.m. He was magnet. This led to Quarles declaring a mistrial. From the way he carried himself, at least, it looked like he had never lost anything before. Judge Wanda Heards comments p15. He feared the police. Pusateris first statement to the cops said that shed gotten a call from Wilds on Syeds phone, while a later statement included information that Wilds had confessed to her that hed helped Syed bury Lee, though the police may have already been looking at him as an accomplice before theyd even spoken to Pusateri, and also bringing him him for questioning. Without Jays testimony, prosecutors have little chance of retrying Adnan. He wouldve gone to jail for murder!". This content is imported from twitter. If that paragraph doesn't make much sense to you, then you probably haven't been following Serial, the wildly successful podcast in which Sarah Koenig reopens and reinvestigates the 1999 Baltimore murder case that put Adnan, who was then 17 years old, behind bars for the rest of his life. He said, Im gonna drive back down there [to the grave]. Each week, we explore unique solutions to some of the world's biggest problems. Panel of prospective jurors sworn p43 He claims Adnan strangled Hae, showed Jay the body and made Jay help bury Hae's body. For our age group, she was really independent. It began with his fear of being prosecuted for dealing pot in his high school. I was also around a bunch of people earlier the day [at Cathys], and I didnt want them to get fucked up with homicide. and 4p.m. I was also running [drug] operations from my grandmothers house. But they're comprehensible, even familiar. My New Years just go SO HAPPY. You follow me some of the way, and then Ill take care of it.. He says, OK, follow me halfway back down the hill [towards the grave site], so he doesnt have to walk all the way back up the hill to get back to me in his car. The group of people I hung out with were different from the group of people I was from. Koenig tried to interview Jay. But there was a grand jury hearing on this case,andI have an idea who might have based on that hearing. I think Jays next move should be a live televised polygraph, preferably administered by Geraldo #FreeAdnan #Serial #TheMachineWillDie, Chaudry wrote. Adnans statement p14 Their accounts depart when Wilds says Syed showed him the body in the trunk of the car, and then Syed enlisted Wilds to bury Lee. Why is this story different from what you originally told the police? Syed could be granted another trial, though, which could pull Wilds back into the spotlight. He tells the police he lied to them. In the podcast Koenig pointedly challenged Jays account of events and his motivation for assisting Adnan. Adnan received a call from the police regarding Hae's disappearance and got "all panicky," so Jay suggested they separate. She just seemed like an older chick who happened to be in high school. March 9, 2019 at 2:00 PM. Anything thats going to make him innocent doesnt involve me. What was your life likeduring1998 and 1999? I got the feeling the few times of interacting with Adnan that there was this enormous pressure from somewhere trying to make him into something he didnt want to be. "He'll trade places with you in a heartbeat," he continued. But in terms of whether Adnan should be in jail right now, the question is whether his guilt is beyond a reasonable doubt. Never really a big group of friends. I said, Isnt he a paramedic? And she said, Nah, hes cool, plus he wants to buy., I didnt trust him at first, since he wasnt like the people I knew pot smokers you know? He left in his car and I was trying to collect myself at my [grandmothers] house. I stonewalled them that way. Mr S Found body in Leakin Park p111, Defense motion for a new trial p1 I think there was another dude or something, or whatever. #FreeAdnan #Serial #LyingMoFo! From the discussions the following day we do know it was the first day of the trial and included jury selection (voir dire) as well as discussions, and probably agreements, about items which might later be introduced into evidence. ", The argument for trusting Jay has been that while the details of his story change, "the spine," as Koenig put it, holds. So, Jay is now saying that what he alleged at the second trial -- Adnan was with Hae's car and he showed Jay her body at Best Buy -- didn't happen. Then he calls me and says, Come pick me up., So I go to pick him up, and when I get there he says, Oh shit, I did it. I say, Did what? He says, I killed Hae.. I saw the ATF and DEA take down guys in my neighborhood for selling much less than I was at the time. Just a giant farce that would be comical if not for the devastating consequences. According to Susan Simpson, another lawyer working on the Undisclosed podcast, the official recorded interviews between Wilds and the police reveal some strange auditory clues to why the police would lie about the date they began questioning Wilds. Hae was dead before she got to my house. And people were starting to find out he was a loser, Oh, you and Hae arent together anymore. Once the police made it clear that my drug dealing wasnt gonna affect the outcome of what was going on, I became a little bit more transparent. Adnan and Jay seemed to be good enough friends to one another and seemed to spend a good amount of time together.
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